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07斎藤 文化財を活用しつづけていくこともサスティナブルへの貢献です。最初に申し上げたように、文化財の価値は社会的な共有物です。文化財の活用とは、その価値や魅力を私たちが享受するということでもあるんです。西澤 あまり意識していませんでしたが、すべての人がヘリテージの恩恵を受けていると。奥野 ですから未来へ残すだけでなく、私たち自身もその価値や魅力を享受し、楽しまなければならない。西澤 文化財が誰のもので、誰が維持していくべきなのか議論になることが多いですが、私はやはり受益者が負担すべきだと思っていました。しかし実は、すべての人が受益者なんですね。皆が受益者だという意識をもつことで、文化への意識が高まっていくかもしれませんね。日建グループのヘリテージビジネス®ソリューションNikken Group Heritage Business® Solutions文化財保護の資格者が合理性と文化財保護の両立を図る。Qualified specialists in cultural-property protection devise a plan that balances practicality with cultural property protection. プロセスの透明性を確保し、最適コストを実現。We ensure that the process is transparent and costs are optimized.木造から近現代の鉄筋コンクリート建築物まで幅広い文化財に対応。We perform services for a wide range of buildings, from wood construction to reinforced concrete.耐震補強などの技術的な検討や増築・新築設計、内装のリニューアルまで幅広いサービスをワンストップで提供。We offer a comprehensive array of services including seismic reinforcement and other technical considerations, building expansion, designs for new construction, and interior renovations.行政庁や学識経験者などのネットワークを活かした計画立案。We provide planning that leverages an extensive network of government agency and academic experts.改修設計Repair/Renovation/Conservation Planning事業性検討Feasibility Study新築・増築設計Design for New Structures / Building Expansion文化財検討Study of Cultural Property耐震・構造検討Seismic Retrofit / Structural Studiesrequired skills, and in some cases we know costs can be reduced by outsourcing tasks to different contractors.Saito Those kinds of careful judgment are needed, aren’t they?Nishizawa The procurement side needs to be better educat-ed about the content of their work. Historical structures and traditional lifestyles offer many hints about sustainability. Traditional buildings, made from biodegradable wood, return to the soil far more quickly than buildings made of industrial materials.Okuno Yes, in fact sites for conserving traditional wooden buildings generate very little waste apart from that related to administrative functions.Saito Continuing to utilize cultural properties is itself a contri-bution to sustainability. Society shares the value of these assets and utilizing them is a way for us to appreciate, and benefit from, their value and beauty.Nishizawa I hadn’t thought about it much before, but everyone stands to benefit from heritage.Okuno Yes. It is not enough to simply preserve that heritage for future generations. We ourselves need to appreciate the value of cultural properties and enjoy them.Nishizawa The question of who should own and preserve cul-tural assets is often debated. I have always believed it should be those who benefit from their value, but, in fact, everyone is a beneficiary. Perhaps if we were all conscious of this, our aware-ness of culture would be heightened.